Earl Grey’s Irish Famine Orphans (96): early draft (2)?

Continuing from the previous post.

I now have a clearer idea of where these recently found scraps of paper came from; they date from the 1980s, as my interest in this particular area of research became more serious. Yet there’s no mention of my taking the subject out of the academy, and appealing to family historians for help.

Some of the scraps relate to my doubts about venturing into women’s history. I was obviously concerned about doing so. Brave? Stupid? Naive? Obstinate? This all seems apparent from what I jotted down.

 Here is a random selection of my jottings.

 ‘Women’s participation in the flight from Ireland in the 19th century has not always been appreciated, or given the attention it deserves‘.

It may seem reasonable to assume that destitute young Irish females, victims of the Great Famine, inmates of Victorian workhouses, were among the wretched and oppressed of the earth. But it would be wrong to lump them all together indiscriminately as powerless and passive victims of patriarchal society’. From an early date, I was determined not to deny the famine orphans any agency.

Don’t start from an ‘a priori’ position, either forcing or distorting evidence to suit one’s ends, or failing to apply the canons of rigorous self-criticism’.

What was the structure of their oppression? Were they passive victims of government instrumentalities—selected, inspected, packed and freighted, indentured and apprenticed, and protected, by a succession of remarkably paternalistic bureaucrats’?

Patriarchal values formed part of their cultural background and instinctively some women reacted to the subjugation which these implied. Rebellious or so-called refractory behaviour in a workhouse, or on-board ship to Australia might be interpreted in such a light. Perhaps, too, the decision to emigrate’.

Yet however plausible the argument that disaffection with the patriarchal society in which they lived encouraged women to emigrate, there still remains the difficult distance between plausibility, and establishing that this was in fact so’.

19th century Irish newspapers cast females in the classic Madonna-Whore mould. Female convicts sent to Van Diemen’s Land were ‘pariahs of their sex, condemned of the law and outcasts of the world’. Female orphans were idealized innocents, ‘rosy-cheeked’, ‘smiling’ and laying claim ‘to that unparalleled beauty for which the daughters of Erin are so characteristic’. But on board ship these rosy-cheeked innocents became ‘the sport and prey of brutalized mariners’, and were led down the road to perdition.

But what do stereotypical and patronising attitudes shown towards women in newspapers tell us about the regard with which women were held in society at large anyway? Arguably, not a great deal’.

Do you, dear reader, ever use writing as a way of clarifying your thinking? I imagine that was what I was doing here.

If you have a glance at either of the Cambridge University repository links below, you’ll see how far away from https://earlgreysfamineorphans.wordpress.com the subject of my doctoral thesis was. (Not that i was a total newcomer to Irish history).

I am extremely pleased that so much good material is available on ‘open access’ nowadays. Combat misinformation however and whenever you can…even if my own interest in ‘Jacques Rohault and the history of natural philosophy’ might be a sure fire cure for your insomnia.

https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/items/c6f88cf8-14be-48ed-8d42-04599888238f

https://doi.org/10.17863/CAM.11460

I’ve come across a few more typed pages that date from around the same time as these scraps of paper. They deal with the question why so many Irish women left Ireland in the 19th century. I’ll share them with you in the next post. My experience with http://www.tintean.org.au has shown me that posts can, and should sometimes, be short.

and could hear her saying, yet again, and very clearly, and so late in the day, that she’d changed her mind ...

(from Claire Keegan, So Late in the Day, Faber and Faber, 2023.)

P.S. A landmark commemoration of the Famine orphans will take place in Williamstown 19 November commencing at 2pm.

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3 thoughts on “Earl Grey’s Irish Famine Orphans (96): early draft (2)?

  1. Firstly, thanks for your work in this area – you are correct this is an under-researched area and overlooks so much of what happened to women and girls, especially poor ones.

    Secondly, I have also been thinking about the question of agency – but mostly in terms of what happened when the Irish Famine Orphans arrived in Australia and thereafter. I have been undertaking my own social history project (though I have no training in history) and have been trying to trace the lives of some of the 196 Irish Famine Orphans who arrived in Adelaide in 1849 aboard the Elgin. Where I have enough information, and where I am reasonably convinced the stories are actually those of the women from this voyage, I have been putting them up for easy access via WikiTree.
    How much agency these women had is questionable, but whether they were any different from other poor women who arrived in Australia is also unknown. How much agency is related to just being female in the 19th Century, or not having control over the number of children one has, and the question of lack of money and education? But also, how much is related to individual personality is interesting.

    Take the Crotty sisters – Alice, Mary and Judith (aka Julia). The youngest, Alice, age 15 when she arrived, married an older man, and they went on to have 8 children. They moved to Victoria, but as far as we can tell from the records, Alice had a peaceful and fulfilling life.

    Mary, however, started well in marrying a bloke in Victoria. She had two kids – one died in infancy, and the other died in 1860 age 6. In the same year her husband also died, leaving Mary alone, without any financial or family support in Sandhurst (Bendigo). Thereafter she descended into a spiral of drunkenness and brushes with the law (including jail time) – mostly crimes of poor women, drunk and disorderly, no lawful means of support and prostitution. She died alone in an asylum.

    Judith/Julia was different again. She was probably married early – at least she had a child. Child’s father was jailed for forging and uttering, leaving her with no means of supporting herself or her child. So, she adopted a new name and set up a brothel in Adelaide (there may have been more than one). She had another child out of wedlock and married a different bloke. With the new bloke she moved to New Zealand where she continued to live life large in the newspapers, splitting from her husband and living alone for several years.

    Each of these 3 sisters started with the same background. Each had a different life trajectory. Although their circumstances were similar, the reactions of Mary and Julia were very different. Mary seemed to descend into depression, poor love. Julia took life on her own terms and made the system work for her as much as possible.

    So, the question of agency is complicated and fascinating.

    [Profiles with sources for these three are on Wikitree.]
    Theresa

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    • Thanks heaps Theresa. That’s brilliant. May I ask if you are a member of The Earl Grey Orphans Australia Facebook group? If not I can let you in. There are many there who will be very interested in what you have achieved, and the issues you raise. Many thanks to you. Trevor

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      • Trevor, that would be great as it has been a solitary endeavour so far. Being able to discuss some of the finds and the difficulties in research would be so helpful
        Theresa

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